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  • Name David Patten Black  [7
    Born 10 Feb 1874  Orderville, Kane, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 7, 8, 9
    Gender Male 
    Name David Patton Black 
    Residence 1880  Orderville, Kane, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Died 20 Oct 1958  Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [7, 10
    Cause: car hit by train 
    David Patten Black death certificate
    Buried 23 Oct 1958  Blanding City Cemetery, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [7, 11
    David Patten Black grave marker
    Person ID I227919  Full Tree | Boulter, Palmer, Timmins, Frint
    Last Modified 29 Mar 2016 

    Father William Morley Black
              b. 11 Feb 1826, Vermillion, Ashland, Ohio, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 21 Jun 1915, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 89 years) 
    Mother Annie Maria Hansen
              b. 19 Nov 1840, Egtved, , Vejle Amt, Denmark Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 9 Mar 1920, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years) 
    Married 26 Oct 1859  Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [7, 12
    Family ID F81794  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Wife 1 Theda Kartchner
              b. 29 Apr 1875, Panguitch, Garfield, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 12 Mar 1962, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years) 
    Married 10 Dec 1892  Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7
    Children 
    +1. Theda Mae Black
              b. 22 Apr 1894, Cave Valley, Galeana, , Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 21 Jul 1974, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
    +2. Wasel Amelia Black
              b. 21 Dec 1896, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 30 Jul 1993, Provo, Utah, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 96 years)
    +3. David John Black
              b. 13 May 1899, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 15 Aug 1993, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 94 years)
     4. Kenneth Morley Black
              b. 23 Feb 1901, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 11 Jul 1902, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)
    +5. Thora Black
              b. 25 Jun 1904, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 30 Jul 1996, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 92 years)
    +6. Geneva Black
              b. 8 Oct 1906, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 11 May 1998, Orem, Utah, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 91 years)
    +7. Oren Frost Black
              b. 9 Oct 1909, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 10 May 2003, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 93 years)
     8. William Zemira Black
              b. 31 Mar 1912, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 2 Dec 1939, Moab, Grand, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 27 years)
    +9. Marie Black
              b. 30 May 1914, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 3 Sep 1973, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years)
    +10. Dottie Black
              b. 13 Sep 1917, Monticello, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 31 May 2010, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 92 years)
    Documents
    65th Wedding Anniversary
    Last Modified 26 Jun 2014 
    Family ID F87924  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Wife 2 Elzada Kartchner
              b. 25 Apr 1885, Colonia Díaz, , Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 5 Jun 1957, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years) 
    Married 25 Nov 1900  Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7, 13
    Children 
    +1. Archie Raymond Black
              b. 5 Jan 1903, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1 Jul 1975, San Luis Obispo, San Luis Obispo, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years)
    +2. Dora Black
              b. 16 Aug 1905, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 21 Jul 1976, Monticello, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
    +3. Nora Black
              b. 16 Aug 1905, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 28 Apr 1979, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years)
    +4. Rhoda Black
              b. 7 Apr 1914, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 21 Mar 1994, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years)
    +5. David Patten Black, Jr.
              b. 1 Oct 1907, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 6 Sep 1989, Monticello, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
    +6. Alvin K. Black
              b. 28 Nov 1910, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 31 May 1995, Chandler, Maricopa, Arizona, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years)
    +7. Irean Black
              b. 8 Dec 1915, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 6 Mar 1984, Cortez, Montezuma, Colorado, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years)
    +8. Clella Black
              b. 20 Oct 1917, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 2 Sep 2006, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)
    +9. Vounes Amelia Black
              b. 14 Jun 1921, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 30 Mar 1982, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years)
    +10. Dortha Black
              b. 4 Apr 1923, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 8 May 1973, San Gabriel, Los Angeles, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 50 years)
     11. Nancy Lou Black
              b. 22 Aug 1925, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 4 Dec 1931, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 6 years)
    Last Modified 10 Apr 2015 
    Family ID F87907  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Wife 3 Montez Rowley
              b. 21 Dec 1903, Colonia Díaz, , Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 24 Feb 1999, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 95 years) 
    Married 1 Feb 1929  Price, Carbon, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 26 Jun 2014 
    Family ID F84414  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 10 Feb 1874 - Orderville, Kane, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1880 - Orderville, Kane, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 10 Dec 1892 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Theda Mae Black - 22 Apr 1894 - Cave Valley, Galeana, , Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Wasel Amelia Black - 21 Dec 1896 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - David John Black - 13 May 1899 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 25 Nov 1900 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Kenneth Morley Black - 23 Feb 1901 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Archie Raymond Black - 5 Jan 1903 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Thora Black - 25 Jun 1904 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Dora Black - 16 Aug 1905 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Nora Black - 16 Aug 1905 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Geneva Black - 8 Oct 1906 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - David Patten Black, Jr. - 1 Oct 1907 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Oren Frost Black - 9 Oct 1909 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Alvin K. Black - 28 Nov 1910 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - William Zemira Black - 31 Mar 1912 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Rhoda Black - 7 Apr 1914 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Marie Black - 30 May 1914 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Irean Black - 8 Dec 1915 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Dottie Black - 13 Sep 1917 - Monticello, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Clella Black - 20 Oct 1917 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Vounes Amelia Black - 14 Jun 1921 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Dortha Black - 4 Apr 1923 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Nancy Lou Black - 22 Aug 1925 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 1 Feb 1929 - Price, Carbon, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Cause: car hit by train - 20 Oct 1958 - Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 23 Oct 1958 - Blanding City Cemetery, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    David Patten Black
    Christmas 1955
    David Patten Black
    David Patten Black and Family
    David Patten Black and Family
    David Patten Black and Family
    David Patten Black
    David Patten Black
    David Patten Black
    David Patten Black and Theda Kartchner
    John Kartchner, Alzada Kartchner, David Patten Black
    David Black & Theda - abt 1893
    David Black
    Dave & Alzada's family 1948
    Children of David P. Black & Elzada Kartchner
    David P. Black
    Dave Black
    David Patten Black
    Dave Black
    Dave & Zade's 50th Wedding Anniversary  1950
    Grandchildren of Dave & Elzada

    Documents
    Funeral Book
    Newspaper
    Newspaper
    Newspaper
    Newspaper
    Newspaper
    Patriarchal Blessing
    WW I Draft Registration
    World War One Draft Card
    65th Wedding Anniversary

    Histories
    Biography
    Scrapbook
    The Indian Possey

    Census
    1880 Census showing David as a child
    1920 Census Orderville
    1930 Census Blanding, SanJuan, Utah

  • Notes 
    • (1)md 10 DEC 1982 Theda KARTCHNER
      Death Cert. # 58 18 2487 Reg. 2320 Book 1600 pg. 40

      Unable to verify Bap. Date. Temple index card lists Feb. 1882
      Baptized by proxy Paul R. Gardner  18 Sep 1968.

      His mother's name is also found spelled Mariah in a few places.

      Micro films of Pacheco and Blanding Ward records.
      Husb. death cert #1645113 Reg. #2320 Book 1600 pg. 40

      Ordained a High Priest 6 Nov 1903 by A. W. Ivins

      Was 1st counselor in Bishopric of Pacheco Ward, Juarez Stake, Mexico in 1909

      Dave was a dynamic man, a man with many abilities.  Living in Mexico he learned the Spanish language, and was a friend to Mexicans as well as his own neighbors.  He was sheriff, a counselor in the Bishopric and always a teacher.  A cattleman as well as a farmer, he supervised the building of roads and did his own surveying.  Was active in civic affairs as well as church work all his life.  He held a job with a lumber company until he was well past eighty.

      David Patten Black
      His own story  (written for the children of Theda Kartchner)
           I am David Patten Black.  My father's name is William Morley Black.  My mothers name is Mariah Hansen Black.  Fathers' father was John Black and his mother was Mary Kline.  My mothers' father is Andrew Hansen and her mother is Abalone Knudsen.  Those are my grandparents.
           I was born on the 10th of February 1874 in Orderville, Kane County Utah.  I was named after one of the first Apostles in the Mormon Church, and one of the first to lay down his life for his faith.
           My father joined the Order, which was a bunch of poor people who came together and built most every thing you could ask for; a blacksmith shop, a shoe shop, cannery, a saw mill, a gristmill, and even built a factory.  The people all are to one big table.  My father was put in to start with, as the president of the kitchen.  They had a certain number of women work there for one week and then change to another set of women.  And we all, as I said before, ate at one big table.  And that is, I think, one reason that we accumulated wealth so fast.  They also owned lots of cattle and sheep and made shoes and furniture which sold around the country and if they had stayed together a few more years they might have owned most of the state of Utah if they had wanted it because they became quite wealthy in that time.  They had a board of directors that directed their work, men went where they were told to go to work; on the farm or out to the sheep camp or any place they were asked to go they went and when I was a boy eight years of age I was sent out to a sheep camp with a young  man by the name of Norman and I used to cry lots, I was so home sick that I didn't know what to do hardly, but I stayed there until I finally got over it and since that time it was never any trouble for me to leave home and to be gone.
           In the Order I was baptized when I was eight years of age by a man by the name of Thomas Robinson, but I don't remember who confirmed me.  From that time on I always figured as soon as I got old enough to realize that if the gospel was worth anything at all it was worth trying to live, and I have been a man who has tried quite hard to live my religion, to attend to my duties in the church so far as I understand them.
           When I came back to the Order I used to drive a yoke of oxen.  When I was only nine years old down to what we called north Carmel and took Sammy Spencer with me who handled the sacks of wheat, I would hold the sacks while he filled them and then he would load them into the wagon and we would haul it up to Orderville.
           After we left the Order and moved into Huntington, it was a very cold country, the way I remember it and it was a new country.  My father was harvest supervisor and used to have to work very hard, and harvest all winter long.  We used to have to haul water about and we would load up the barrels and go and get barrels of water most every day.  Used to haul it to the north end of the house.  I remember a young man by the name of Sammy Spencer who was a step-son of my father's and was blind and used to limp all the time I believe I spoke of him one time about them sending me to Mount Carmel to haul wheat; about me holding the sacks for him while he filled them and then he would load them into the wagon and I would drive the yoke of oxen back to the Order and sometimes we made two trips a day.  That was just after I turned nine years of age.  When we were in Huntington we hauled wood and water most every day and he went with me.  I would stake the wood, trim the tree, load the wagon and then we would haul it home.  We only had five families that we had to keep in wood and water most of the time.  I can remember going day after day, cold days, stormy days, and haul wood with me and Sammy.
           My father had a very nice team of horses at that time.  They were both yellow horses; and finally father traded one of them off, the horse that we called Buck.  Her name was bucking girl.  We traded old Buck for a big fine colt only three years old.  Father was making a great trade.  I even remember what times I had with that horse.  It was balky and I had an awful time, but I used to cry because father traded old Buck off.  I remember so well when we were out one day to the sheep camp with my brother Ben.  I told him that father had traded old Buck off.  I had dreamt it during the night that he had traded him off.  I remember that I saw the horse just as plain as I see him now in my mind's eye and sure enough as we were going home from there we ran across a man that was camped there and just off a little ways from the wagon there was old Buck and another horse and I said "See Ben, you see, father has traded him off".  As I said, he was a balky, good for nothing fellow and I used to have an awful time so father had to go out and get another horse for me as I couldn't handle him and we couldn't bring in loads of wood like we used to do.  It was quite a trial to me as a boy to think that he parted with old Buck.  And that was my experience in Huntington, traveling day after day in the cold winter days, hauling wood, and water and ice to the different families.  Some of them were my brothers families and some were fathers families.
           My father was a kind man.  I don't remember him ever giving me a whipping.  I remember well the first scolding that he ever gave me.  He was driving two yoke of cattle and as I remember now he was hauling it over into Kanab country and when he came to this little stream and the oxen were very thirsty and wanted to drink and I began to hollering "Gee, Gee", and they kinda turned down the stream and by the time he got them headed back up and out he kinda missed the road where it went out and he got stuck there in the creek.  I can remember he gave me quite a scolding and I never did forget it.
           My mother was quite different to that.  She was very strict and quite stern with us.  I can remember her giving me several pretty hard whippings for different things that I done, but yet I was a boy that always thought a great deal of my parents.  I've always loved  and respected them as a boy and they're still very dear to me in my memories of them.
           When I was in my tenth year the Order broke up.  As long as Brigham Young was alive the Order done fine, but Brother John Taylor, I remember just the child like I was, him coming there telling the people that they had the cart before the horse.  So, of course, a lot of them took advantage of that and the Order broke up and we landed in Huntington.  In Huntington I went to school two different years; only three times of schooling that I had in my entire lifetime.  We lived in Huntington for a number of years.  I had very little schooling during my life time, I think about as well as I can remember of going to school when I was a child and then when I got older after I went to Mexico I went to school there for a while and our teacher was a man by the name of Williams and his wife and taught the whole school and I believe that I learned more then than I had during the rest of my school days as I kind of took an interest in it and tried to learn and study my lessons well and be well prepared in my class.
           I well remember that when I was a boy going to school that I used to like to draw pictures of different kinds, especially dogs, horses, birds and things that way and my teacher come along and she used to come by and tell me that I couldn't draw pictures.  Finally when she came by about the second or third time that I was drawing pictures she gave me quite a whipping for it.  That's about the only thing that I can remember of my school days with her.  Her name was Mae Faxel.  Nowadays they have them draw or anything that they want to, in fact, teach them these kind of things; so different to what we used to be in my days when I was a boy going to school.  And a lady by the name of Annie Cox that I went to school, who that I sure think lots of and still remember her and her kindness and her teaching and I remember the first little song I ever learned.  She learned it to us children that were in the, what we called the Primer, that was our first book that we had.  She learned us this little song so I think that I will sing it to you to let you know what it was.  Went something like this:

      There came to my window one morning in Spring,
      A sweet little robin, she came there to sing,
      The tune that she sang was prettier by far,
      That ever I heard on a flute or guitar,
      She raised her light wing to soar far away
      And resting a moment seemed sweetly to say,
      Oh happy, how happy this world seems to be
      Up, up little world and be happy with me.

      Another little song that she taught us when we were going to school was:

      I'm going to write to Papa and oh how glad he'll be,
      To get a little letter that's written all by me.
      I'll tell him about my dolly she's sleeping on the floor.
      I fear the noise will wake her, So please don't slam the door.
      I'll send him lots of kisses and one bright shinning curl.
      I'll tell him to remember his darling, his darling little girl.

      That was the first two songs that I ever remember learning when I was a child and I have always remembered them.
           I remember on of the first times I had anything happen to me.  It was one time when I was a boy, my mother went over to visit her sister at Ephriam.  We lived in Huntington at this time and we used to wrestle lots and scuffle.  I was wrestling a boy and as he throwed me down and as I fell I hit my arm across a rock and broke it in the elbow and kinda split the bone up toward my shoulder.  I can remember how I suffered with that arm.  At that time a doctor by the name of Fields set my arm and said that I would never have much use of it that I would always have a stiff arm, but it got along fine.  I've always felt thankful even to this day.
           I enjoyed very much my life.  I can remember different things that happened when I was just a small boy.  One was that an Indian poisoned an old man and his son.  The Indians name, we called him White Eye, I don't know how he happened to get that name, but anyhow he was quite a bad Ute.  And I can remember seeing the sheriff come after him, racing down the street right down through Orderville and just as he got about there he caught up with the Indian and jerked him off his horse.  He took him prisoner and the Indian made quite a fuss about it; didn't think they ought to do any thing to him cause it was just an old man.  The old man died.  There was an old Ute man that the Indians wanted to give in his place for what he had done.  They didn't think it was fair to take a young man like he was at that time.
           One instance in my life that I would like to mention; when I was about thirteen years of age I went with one of my brothers out to herd sheep.  They sent for him to come home, being as mother was very sick and he left me there with the sheep all by myself in what they call Price canyon and he was gone for three weeks and the man that he expected to come and take his place never showed up and I stayed there, just a boy at that age, for three weeks, all by myself and tended the sheep until my brother came back.
           I well remember the first experience when I first started to go to dances.  The young people who I associated with, a lot of them I revere very much in my memory today.  I have always been quite a hand to take up with people and welcome them and my wife and me have always welcomed people into our home ever since we were married.  We've always had a lot of people come and visit us and do even to this day have lots of company in our home and lots of dear friends that we think a great deal of.
           My father got tired of playing hide and seek as he called it, with the deputy marshals and finally decided to move into Mexico and I was taken to Mexico when I was sixteen years of age.  My father was a miller by trade.  When we went to Huntington he worked over to the Orin Seeley mill for a number of years there.  One time my aunt was very sick and they sent me over after my father to Castle Dale and it was in the night time about twelve o'clock at night.  My brother didn't want to go but I wanted to go.  My brother was older and he was afraid that I'd get scared and come back  so he followed me out for about two miles till we crossed through some very deep washes there and when he saw that I went on he turned and went back home, knew that I would go.  I went back home with a man by the name of Jones.  My father took the horse that I was riding and went back that evening, and left me there till the next morning.
           My father took Aunt Louisa in 1889 and left us to follow up the next year.  That summer I went with my brother Ben and Joe up to the Echo sawmill and logged there all summer long up in Huntington mountains and earned most of the money that took us up into Mexico the next season.  My brother Miller, myself and Morley drove the teams into Mexico.  On our way to Mexico we stopped off in Orderville and there we stayed and rested our teams for a couple of days and then moved on, traveled till we got to Snowflake over the Mokiown Mountains.
           We met a bunch of Apache Indians and we had made our camp and they came into camp and talked with us for quite a while and finally got to acting pretty sassy and smart and one of the men that was with us by the name of Ben Cox, he got his gun out and went to cleaning it so they pulled out and left. That night we watched our horses most all night long, for fear that the Indians might come and steal them from us, but everything went all right through the night and the next day we moved on.
           We got on into Mexico on in Lasashone to the custom  house on the first day of December as I remember it, in Colonia Diaz and there we stayed for a few days and then they took my Mother and went on up to Cases Grande where father was running the mill for a man named Joe Jackson.  He worked there for a while and run a grist mill for a man by the name of Stowe over to Colonia Juarez.  Colonia Juarez had built up and also Colonia Diaz by that time so there was getting to be quite a few in the colonies.  My father's horse that he took into Mexico was stolen just below the old Juarez town which stands there now.  Him and two or three men followed them off into Texas.  The men that were with father got discouraged and turned back and he went on into Houston Texas, followed them for some time, but he could get no trace of them so he finally returned home.
           From there we went up into the mountain colonies.  There were a few people that had settled up in the mountains.  Colonia Pacheco, and the Mexicans told them before that if they went in there they'd all be killed off by the Apaches as old Geronimo had traveled that country a good year and had killed a number of people up there and they said that the Mormons would all be killed off.  But they went up there and lived for a number of years without being molested at all.  But finally the Apache Kid who left the reservation with a few came into that country and killed a family the name of Johnson.  We lived there for a number of years and were molested off and on by the Apaches and when the Mormons went into the Sierra Madre mountains, the Casa Grande Mexican named it Districto of Bravos, which means the district of the brave; and it goes by that name today on the records in Casa Grande and it will always be known as Districto Bravos on account of the Mormons moving into the mountains and settling down there.
           It was a great country for deer and turkey.  We used to get some by going out in an hours time.  When we first went down there you would get deer of turkey and bring them home and it helped the people a good deal towards their living because it was a country that was new and some of the crops didn't do very well there.  There was quite a bit of frost early and late; but finally it got better as the years sent by.  We lived in that country for twenty two years.  Finally my father moved his family up there.  After we went into the mountains we got together as the Pacheco people and started a city down in Cave Valley, close to the big cave and there is the first time that I ever met my wife, Theda Kartchner.  The first time that we saw, we knew it was love at first sight.  She had joined up with a young fellow, but left with me and from then on we went together until finally we were ready to move out into the United States and we decided to get married while we were rather young at that time, but yet of course I didn't want to see her leave and she didn't seem to want to leave, so we got married.  We were married in her mother's home by Jesse N. Smith that was the Bishop of Colonia Pacheco at that time.  There were only two of my sisters and two or three of hers.  My father and mother had gone back down into the valley to get some more of their things to bring there as they had decided to make that their home.
           We got married there and went into Juarez to get a few things for our wedding and it was quite different than what it is nowadays.  The only thing that we got at our wedding reception was we got to give the people a dance, had a very nice time that way; but we got one little dish, I believe was the only thing that we received when we got married; and of course being in that country in hard times and all, we had quite a hard time getting started.  I worked for a man for some time for a dollar a day and my board and we managed to get by with that.  My wife used to go with me sometimes, and help me milk cows.  He had about forty head of cows that we milked, milked them all by hand; quite different than the way they have of doing things nowadays.  I often think of the condition of those days and the condition of today.  We married, because we loved one another.  We have raised ten children, lost two of them, the rest of them are all living here around us today.  A very nice family I figure that we have quite a credit to us as their parents.  We have tried to raise them right.  They have all been trough the temple, those that have lived and married.  Feel that they certainly been a credit to us.

         1  UID 465207F4156BD511AFCA93EA65CC8749F0C5


      18931
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      Black-David
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      Black-Dave Obituary
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      Album Black-Dave & daughters
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      Black-David & Theda
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      Black-Dave collage
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      Black-Dave & Zades family 1948
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      Black-Dave & Zade 50th
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      Album Dave & Theda
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      Album Black-David children & spouses
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      Black-David
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      Black-David
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  • Reference  Bryan S. Larson. "David Patten Black". Our Family Histories. https://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I227919&tree=00 (accessed April 19, 2019).

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